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Old 04-13-2021, 04:00 PM   #31
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Yes, I know what your heart tells you...but make sure not to exagerrate. This might also drive people away from forums, we have a lot of moaning here in my opinion....
I know you don't like me very much, but i must say what i think,
especially looking at what 1:400 scale is realizing for those
collecting it (me too).
Herpa is producing always the same models and airlines, more and more
re-releases. There is no longer the bite nor the emotion that there were
years ago about news and, also due to the low quality, now much of the
original 1:500 scale has been lost. There are no niche airlines,there has been standardized on the
usual models, there is no longer the B737 classic family,
some airlines will never be made because of the understandable
but unacceptable(from the inveterate collector point of view)
licenses problems, so there is no more the emotion about to say
"wow, easyJet A319 has been announced!"
1:500 scale = Herpa, is becoming like Wings900: flat! Except for some flashes of wonder like, for me, TUI Airways B757WL, or neos B787-9, or what Uganda Airlines A330-800neo will be and few else.
No way.
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I know you don't like me very much, but i must say what i think,
especially looking at what 1:400 scale is realizing for those
collecting it (me too).
Herpa is producing always the same models and airlines, more and more
re-releases. There is no longer the bite nor the emotion that there were
years ago about news and, also due to the low quality, now much of the
original 1:500 scale has been lost. There are no niche airlines,there has been standardized on the
usual models, there is no longer the B737 classic family,
some airlines will never be made because of the understandable
but unacceptable(from the inveterate collector point of view)
licenses problems, so there is no more the emotion about to say
"wow, easyJet A319 has been announced!" No way.








What kind of nonsense is this now, Ale ? You are grown up man and what I mentioned here doesnt have to do anything to do whether I like you or not. Stop that and dont feel always personally offended.
I extra added a smiley, so it is clear that I also mean it in a friendly way.
And lets be clear, you are not the only one....but I dont like the feeling that there is more moaning than joy ....and joy is what this hobby should be about, no ?

1:400 is not 1:500, how many times has this been discussed back and forth ?
If you dont feel the joy anymore in it, then why not abandon 1:500 and move on completely to 1:400.

you talk about you as super passionate collector. Well, you think the rest of us arent ? Also keep in mind, we had so many discussions how this forum can be kept alive etc.
Dont think it will help if someone from outside sees moaning all the time, right ?

We all know, other scales are better, have a wider choice etc. We all know the reasons. So really can only suggest either move on to other scale or bury the known problems of 1:500 ....no sense with each release digging out the known stuff, dont you think ?
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What kind of nonsense is this now, Ale ? You are grown up man and what I mentioned here doesnt have to do anything to do whether I like you or not. Stop that and dont feel always personally offended.
I extra added a smiley, so it is clear that I also mean it in a friendly way.
And lets be clear, you are not the only one....but I dont like the feeling that there is more moaning than joy ....and joy is what this hobby should be about, no ?

1:400 is not 1:500, how many times has this been discussed back and forth ?
If you dont feel the joy anymore in it, then why not abandon 1:500 and move on completely to 1:400.

you talk about you as super passionate collector. Well, you think the rest of us arent ? Also keep in mind, we had so many discussions how this forum can be kept alive etc.
Dont think it will help if someone from outside sees moaning all the time, right ?

We all know, other scales are better, have a wider choice etc. We all know the reasons. So really can only suggest either move on to other scale or bury the known problems of 1:500 ....no sense with each release digging out the known stuff, dont you think ?
After many years many of us "old collectors" have created our own (or more) airport (s): collecting 1:400 scale, along with 1:500, i noticed you can find everything you want. I don't say "Herpa must produce everything suddenly", of course, because this would not be a collection but just a shop where to buy the models you want; i say "there must be the hope to see, one day, the model (s) you need for your airport (s) of just because you extremely love it". This wish, along with the infinite passion, make a collector alive and make a collection soul alive. In 1:500, with this Herpa and without competitors, there is no way and no hope to see some models and airlines released and this is really sad; this is also a reason because many collectors (too many collectors) switched to 1:400 scale.
The second reason is the extremely bad quality of the moulds: when i receive a must wanted airline, like happened for Cabo Verde B757s for my "Espargos" airport, i start to write full of joy and emotion because they have been released but then i look better at the mould and everything stops: monsters, real monsters! And not only the B757 but also the MD-11, the Tu-154 (less than a monster but with a completely wrong nose section) and so on.
Just the A320 and B737 families seem to be nice, nicer than before at least.
the real problem is that we know there are almost perfect moulds in 1:500 scale: StarJets, Sky500, Inflight500 and so on.
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After many years many of us "old collectors" have created our own (or more) airport (s): collecting 1:400 scale, along with 1:500, i noticed you can find everything you want. I don't say "Herpa must produce everything suddenly", of course, because this would not be a collection but just a shop where to buy the models you want; i say "there must be the hope to see, one day, the model (s) you need for your airport (s) of just because you extremely love it". This wish, along with the infinite passion, make a collector alive and make a collection soul alive. In 1:500, with this Herpa and without competitors, there is no way and no hope to see some models and airlines released and this is really sad; this is also a reason because many collectors (too many collectors) switched to 1:400 scale.
The second reason is the extremely bad quality of the moulds: when i receive a must wanted airline, like happened for Cabo Verde B757s for my "Espargos" airport, i start to write full of joy and emotion because they have been released but then i look better at the mould and everything stops: monsters, real monsters! And not only the B757 but also the MD-11, the Tu-154 (less than a monster but with a completely wrong nose section) and so on.
Just the A320 and B737 families seem to be nice, nicer than before at least.
the real problem is that we know there are almost perfect moulds in 1:500 scale: StarJets, Sky500, Inflight500 and so on.
Ale, collecting models myself also since 1984. I know the issues there are in 1:500 and I also dont like everything that is made for the reasons you mention.
And you can bet, that some of the models I most want willl never ever be produced. Why do you think I switched asking some of the magic guys like Allan, Sergio or Bert to help me out. Customs is only way you can help yourself in this scale...

But I talk about the constant moan what is NOT done instead of enjoying what is done.
Of course I would also prefer a StarJets, Netmodels, IF500, AeroClassics and you name them to make the models I want. But this is not the case and unlikely to be the case. So there are simply only 2 options. Move to 1:400 (and even there not everything is gold that glitters) or be a bit more relaxed and enjoy what both scales bring you.

I have also considered back and forth switching to 1:400, but for time being I wouldnt do.
And yes, I know what I talk about as well with different scales, my models ranging from 1:1000 to 1:36. And I enjoy what I have and what I get (because what I get is what I like, otherwise simply dont buy it).

You need to be a bit more relaxed and that doesnt have to do anything if you are passionate or not....
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Only one for me this time:
535403 KDC-10 - Royal Netherlands Air Force "75 years"
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Ale, collecting models myself also since 1984. I know the issues there are in 1:500 and I also dont like everything that is made for the reasons you mention.
And you can bet, that some of the models I most want willl never ever be produced. Why do you think I switched asking some of the magic guys like Allan, Sergio or Bert to help me out. Customs is only way you can help yourself in this scale...

But I talk about the constant moan what is NOT done instead of enjoying what is done.
Of course I would also prefer a StarJets, Netmodels, IF500, AeroClassics and you name them to make the models I want. But this is not the case and unlikely to be the case. So there are simply only 2 options. Move to 1:400 (and even there not everything is gold that glitters) or be a bit more relaxed and enjoy what both scales bring you.

I have also considered back and forth switching to 1:400, but for time being I wouldnt do.
And yes, I know what I talk about as well with different scales, my models ranging from 1:1000 to 1:36. And I enjoy what I have and what I get (because what I get is what I like, otherwise simply dont buy it).

You need to be a bit more relaxed and that doesnt have to do anything if you are passionate or not....
Continuing with the OT, but then i will stop myself, what would you say if, in the collection you spend money for:

1) you know that some airlines will never be produced for sure.
In fact Ryanair, Laudamotion, Malta Air, Buzz, Virgin Atlantic, Korean Air, easyJet, Wizz Air, Blue Air, Volotea, Southwest, Spirit (and many others we can't know) will never see light in 1:500;
2) even more collectors/ex enthusiasts are trying to create thair own "models factory" spending money for creating airplanes Herpa will never produce;
3) even more collectors buy customs (i am happy for the customs Masters);
4) even more collectors switch to 1:400;
5) moulds quality/shape is worst than before (for example, the nose section of the B757, below the cockpit windows, is more similar to an hammer head than of a nose/radar cone);
6) no way to have B737classic in our hands because Herpa stopped to produce them. So we will never see niche models/airlines like Tayaranjet B737-300, Air Mediterranean B737-400, Air Horizont B737-400, Lumiwings B737-300, Albawings B737-400/500 and the various B737classics who filled the sky with Russian airlines.

I continue to collect just because i have invested too many money in 25 years, but there is no more the emotion and the expectation of some years ago.
Unfortunately we have only one manufacturer and Herpa lost too much in the latest years.
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517422-003 A330-300 - Aeroflot (new reg) No!
526364-002 Boeing 777-300ER - Aeroflot (new reg) No!
527606-001 Boeing 787-8 - American Airlines (new reg) No!
529693-001 A350-900 - Thai Airways (new reg) Maybe, first release did only have a printed wifi hump!
534468-001 A350-900 - Luftwaffe Flugbereitschaft No!
535151 TU-154M - Rossiya Special Flight Detachment No!
535175 Convair Coronado - Balair No!
535328 A220-300 - Air Baltic "100th A220" Maybe, although i like the first release too.
535342 A319 - Eurowings No!
535335 Boeing 767-300 w/winglets - Delta Air Lines No!
535359 A330-300 - Malaysia Airlines "Harimau Malaya" Yes, looks beautiful!
535366 A321Neo - Swiss No! Got the A321ceo and would have preferred an A319!
535373 A321Neo - TAP "Retro livery" No!
535403 KDC-10 - Royal Netherlands Air Force "75 years" No!
535410 A340-300 - Lufthansa (new livery) Yes, new livery fleet is growing!
535427 A330-800Neo - Uganda Airlines Yes, looks beautiful!
535434 MD-11F - Western Global Airlines No!
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Yes on the Delta 763, American 788 and Lufthansa A343.
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517422-003 A330-300 - Aeroflot (new reg) NO
526364-002 Boeing 777-300ER - Aeroflot (new reg) ALREADY HAVE
527606-001 Boeing 787-8 - American Airlines (new reg) ALREADY HAVE
529693-001 A350-900 - Thai Airways (new reg) NO
534468-001 A350-900 - Luftwaffe Flugbereitschaft MAYBE
535151 TU-154M - Rossiya Special Flight Detachment NO
535175 Convair Coronado - Balair NO
535328 A220-300 - Air Baltic "100th A220" NO
535342 A319 - Eurowings NO
535335 Boeing 767-300 w/winglets - Delta Air Lines DID IT MYSELF ADDING WINGLETS TO PREVIOUS DELTA 763
535359 A330-300 - Malaysia Airlines "Harimau Malaya" NO
535366 A321Neo - Swiss YES FOR CUSTOMS
535373 A321Neo - TAP "Retro livery" NO
535403 KDC-10 - Royal Netherlands Air Force "75 years" NO
535410 A340-300 - Lufthansa (new livery) MAYBE
535427 A330-800Neo - Uganda Airlines NO
535434 MD-11F - Western Global Airlines SOLID YES
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517422-003 A330-300 - Aeroflot (new reg) Maybe
526364-002 Boeing 777-300ER - Aeroflot (new reg) Probably not
527606-001 Boeing 787-8 - American Airlines (new reg) No
529693-001 A350-900 - Thai Airways (new reg) Already have this, so No
534468-001 A350-900 - Luftwaffe Flugbereitschaft No
535151 TU-154M - Rossiya Special Flight Detachment No
535175 Convair Coronado - Balair No
535328 A220-300 - Air Baltic "100th A220" Yes
535342 A319 - Eurowings Yes, but depends on the profile, if tail heavy then NO
535335 Boeing 767-300 w/winglets - Delta Air Lines Yes, but depends on the profile, if tail heavy then NO
535359 A330-300 - Malaysia Airlines "Harimau Malaya" Cool plane Herpa but not for me
535366 A321Neo - Swiss No
535373 A321Neo - TAP "Retro livery" Probably Yes, again depends of the profile
535403 KDC-10 - Royal Netherlands Air Force "75 years" No
535410 A340-300 - Lufthansa (new livery) No
535427 A330-800Neo - Uganda Airlines Maybe, need to see the actual model. Great release though, if it was Senegal, for sure YES
535434 MD-11F - Western Global Airlines Cool, but No

Some interesting models for sure, but not much for me personally this release.
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Stop moaning for christs sake, it will only hurt your health !
And stop that easyjet & Ryanair topic....take it, that this is dead. If not, be happy about the surprise instead of being unhappy what you dont have.
It is a bit tiring that instead of someone really being happy and saying "cool, this is released" it is constantly overtoned by "****, this is missing"...really negative vibe, sorry to say that so open. I know you know how I mean that, Ale.
Hobby is for joy, so let's concentrate a bit more on the positive things, especially in these freaking times, can we ?

Apart from that, statement no classic is incorrect, huh ?
Is Balair Convair, TU154 and Dutch AF DC 10 not a classic ??? Is a Delta 767 not already to be considered as a classic or the MD11 ?

We got an MD11 from WGA ? Something so many here were talking and hoping for. Yes, not the perfect mold, I know....but here she is.

You finally also got a new african airline...so why moan again because of KQ and ET ?

You didnt get the TAP A319, but you got an A321 ? Why moan ?

You finally got another 2 important narrow bodies, with EW A319 and LX A321. So why moan again no OS is released ?

Sometimes possibly it helps to raise a glass and see it is half full and not half empty....cheers !

Thank you!!! Such a good reply. There is nothing I can add.
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Thank you!!! Such a good reply. There is nothing I can add.

Thank you Sandborg. And again, nothing to do with whom I like or not....i simply just cant stand that consant negativity anymore. If it causes me to read and participate less and less on a Forum, I am sure that I am not the only one....and than this is exact what we complain about. We lose people and dont gain new ones and this might be one of the reasons. And here we go and close this. Would be a wish, that this message is heard and understood.
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Thank you Sandborg. And again, nothing to do with whom I like or not....i simply just cant stand that consant negativity anymore. If it causes me to read and participate less and less on a Forum, I am sure that I am not the only one....and than this is exact what we complain about. We lose people and dont gain new ones and this might be one of the reasons. And here we go and close this. Would be a wish, that this message is heard and understood.
I fully agree. Half the moans we already know why they canít make them. Herpa isnít going to break the law like Chinese companies.

You are absolutely correct. If you donít like donít buy them. Sell your 1/500 collection and move to 1/400 (where many collectors also complain about the range, the quality and other issues). But if you moan about it and then still go and buy every release then Herpa doesnít care. They get their money.

Itís just so depressing to see people constantly moan about the releases especially when it is models people have been waiting for. We will never all be happy.
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535151 TU-154M - Rossiya Special Flight Detachment
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535373 A321Neo - TAP "Retro livery"
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517422-003 A330-300 - Aeroflot (new reg) Not for me
526364-002 Boeing 777-300ER - Aeroflot (new reg) No, any reason behind two Aeroflots?
527606-001 Boeing 787-8 - American Airlines (new reg) Yes, missed the first one
529693-001 A350-900 - Thai Airways (new reg) Maybe
534468-001 A350-900 - Luftwaffe Flugbereitschaft Not for me
535151 TU-154M - Rossiya Special Flight Detachment No
535175 Convair Coronado - Balair No
535328 A220-300 - Air Baltic "100th A220" Yes, been waiting a while for this one, so it's nice to see it coming
535342 A319 - Eurowings Yes
535335 Boeing 767-300 w/winglets - Delta Air Lines Yes
535359 A330-300 - Malaysia Airlines "Harimau Malaya" Nope
535366 A321Neo - Swiss Yes
535373 A321Neo - TAP "Retro livery" Maybe, hopefully this will mean a standard livery down the line
535403 KDC-10 - Royal Netherlands Air Force "75 years" Possibly, nice to see tankers now popping up, hopefully this will mean others down the line
535410 A340-300 - Lufthansa (new livery) No
535427 A330-800Neo - Uganda Airlines Not for me
535434 MD-11F - Western Global Airlines No
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