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Old 03-17-2010, 09:34 PM   #1
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Why not an AN-225 1:400 model?

There's two Herpa Wings AN-225 1:500 models (old and new colours). There`s some A380, A340-600 and B747-8 1:400 models. So (if the size isn`t a problem), why not an 1:400 model of the Mryia, too? I'll be one of first buyers when any manufacturer launch it!
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Re: Why not an AN-225 1:400 model?

Me as well,i think it's just a matter of time before someone makes it in 1:400..(i hope!)..I can't see the size being a problem,as you said the A380 is available in the scale,but the only problem could be the price of the mould...

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Re: Why not an AN-225 1:400 model?

sure, there are many A380 yet... There is one or two Ant225 through the world...
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Re: Why not an AN-225 1:400 model?

>There is one or two Ant225 through the world...

There's only one... it makes the AN-225 anything special!

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Re: Why not an AN-225 1:400 model?

There's three fantasy AN-225's i'd love to buy...

Aeroflot(in Russian),Air Bridge Cargo and Heavylift..
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Re: Why not an AN-225 1:400 model?

I don't like fantasy models, but if any manufacturer launch the AN-225 on its 3 painting schemes, I'll buy all!
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Re: Why not an AN-225 1:400 model?

I'm not a big fan of fantasy models either,but with the 225 i don't think there's any other option!.
We just have to hope that someone somewhere reads this thread and starts producing them...
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Re: Why not an AN-225 1:400 model?

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There's two Herpa Wings AN-225 1:500 models (old and new colours). There`s some A380, A340-600 and B747-8 1:400 models. So (if the size isn`t a problem), why not an 1:400 model of the Mryia, too? I'll be one of first buyers when any manufacturer launch it!
It really seems to be cost x benefit issue, As said before the mould could be too expensive to produce two or three liveries.... Anyway I would buy one, not fantasy.......
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Re: Why not an AN-225 1:400 model?

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sure, there are many A380 yet... There is one or two Ant225 through the world...
A manufacturer doesn't require an aircraft to be operated by 10 or 100 operators.
If the demand is there, then It's a big hitter. It's just a matter of time when the one of the manufacturers wakes up and gets a hold of making an AN-225 mould.

GJ was able to make the AN124, I don't see any obstacles to GJ for making it. So perhaps the AN124 had a couple of more operators in hand, but it sure doesn't make the AN225 less popular.
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Re: Why not an AN-225 1:400 model?

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A manufacturer doesn't require an aircraft to be operated by 10 or 100 operators.
If the demand is there, then It's a big hitter. It's just a matter of time when the one of the manufacturers wakes up and gets a hold of making an AN-225 mould.

GJ was able to make the AN124, I don't see any obstacles to GJ for making it. So perhaps the AN124 had a couple of more operators in hand, but it sure doesn't make the AN225 less popular.
Sure, but the fact there are more operators is easier to sell from the same mould more models. That doesn't seem the case about the An225. The fact there is one operator only is limited, despite other qualities of this airplane. Myself, I would get it in my collection too, whatever the operator printed... Moreover, if almost collectors may buy some many airbus or boeing, and getting many A330, 340 or 777, 747... how many an225 will you buy ? Probably one only. So the investment should not be so good like other models. That's we may regret, and the cause we don't find any an225 on the market...
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Re: Why not an AN-225 1:400 model?

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Sure, but the fact there are more operators is easier to sell from the same mould more models. That doesn't seem the case about the An225. The fact there is one operator only is limited, despite other qualities of this airplane. Myself, I would get it in my collection too, whatever the operator printed... Moreover, if almost collectors may buy some many airbus or boeing, and getting many A330, 340 or 777, 747... how many an225 will you buy ? Probably one only. So the investment should not be so good like other models. That's we may regret, and the cause we don't find any an225 on the market...
It doesn't matter about the T7 or the 747 or the A340,it's the market for the 225,which is a one off!..And as for your comment about how many would i buy,read my post about fantasy models..(plus the original livery)...
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Re: Why not an AN-225 1:400 model?

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how many an225 will you buy ? Probably one only. So the investment should not be so good like other models. That's we may regret, and the cause we don't find any an225 on the market...
I'd buy only one - but as it is such a unique model - in so many ways - they could hike the price up. I'd love to make on to go with my An-124 Volga Dnepr. I would like the livery to be the new updated one, as seen below...



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Re: Why not an AN-225 1:400 model?

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Sure, but the fact there are more operators is easier to sell from the same mould more models. That doesn't seem the case about the An225. The fact there is one operator only is limited, despite other qualities of this airplane. Myself, I would get it in my collection too, whatever the operator printed... Moreover, if almost collectors may buy some many airbus or boeing, and getting many A330, 340 or 777, 747... how many an225 will you buy ? Probably one only. So the investment should not be so good like other models. That's we may regret, and the cause we don't find any an225 on the market...
***The fact there is one operator only is limited,***
It's not a question of how many I will buy of different schemed A340, B777 or 744s.
What I think will be a good seller is that there's only 1 AN225, sure this will be a hot seller, if PHX or GJ made a 2000 pieces, I bet every single one will be bought. The investment would be good.
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***The fact there is one operator only is limited,***
It's not a question of how many I will buy of different schemed A340, B777 or 744s.
What I think will be a good seller is that there's only 1 AN225, sure this will be a hot seller, if PHX or GJ made a 2000 pieces, I bet every single one will be bought. The investment would be good.
Might be true!! For GJ or PHX develop a new mould (as any E-jets) they will be able to sell 20.000 units with different liveries, and unfortunatelly this wouldnīt be posssible to do with AN225..... Thatīs the point....
Anyway, if I am wrong I would buy one.....
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***The fact there is one operator only is limited,***
It's not a question of how many I will buy of different schemed A340, B777 or 744s.
What I think will be a good seller is that there's only 1 AN225, sure this will be a hot seller, if PHX or GJ made a 2000 pieces, I bet every single one will be bought. The investment would be good.
Actually, from my observations 2 operators (ВВС СССР and Antonov), and 4 paint schemes (Red Stripe Soviet Register and Ukrainian Register, Blue Stripe Ukrainian shortly before it got repainted into the current livery.)

Then you might have modified variants too, though that would require new moulds made (i.e. Buran, and for the less informed, it's not as simple as taking a space shuttle mould and slapping "Буран" on the side and "CCCP" on the Wings, the designs were different enough as a 737 and A320 are to each other.)

Either way, it will sell well, to Darkside, you must look at what herpa made in 1:500, they made this "one off" of an aircraft.

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Might be true!! For GJ or PHX develop a new mould (as any E-jets) they will be able to sell 20.000 units with different liveries, and unfortunatelly this wouldnīt be posssible to do with AN225..... Thatīs the point....
Anyway, if I am wrong I would buy one.....
Calculating the costs, if the mould was developed, and not taking into account manufacturing costs, if an An-225 mould was made, and ended up costing some 70K, and 2000 of each of the 4 paint schemes were made, the price to break even then is 8.75 per unit. Though it is considerably more once you do factor in the other costs. I recall that the mould costs themselves typically for most moulds are within the 10s of thousands to develop depending on the type (this is also assuming the mould itself would cost 70,000 dollars).

Also let's not forget, if it were to be made by some certain manufactures, chances would be high we would see an (possibly unreasonable) slew of these aircraft in fantasy colors. Braniff, various cargo carriers, Coke, Pepsi, even a Christmas aircraft.

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There's three fantasy AN-225's i'd love to buy...

Aeroflot(in Russian),Air Bridge Cargo and Heavylift..
Don't forget Aeroflot Soviet. This one had not flown in a real Aeroflot livery.
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