NEW RELEASE: 1:500 Herpa Qantas Airways B 747-438 - Page 2

B727 · 03-30-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by hikouki

If Herpa can't stand the heat in the business, then they should pack their bags and go. Simple as that. They put out their products and it is the buyers who decide if they are good enough. And if business has been good but their financial statements are still down, then they are guilty of bad management. Such is the dictum of the free and global economy. We don't live in the feudal ages with the patron-client system anymore! It's a free market economy and it is not social welfare - so people should not buy this and that, and let this and that faulty product pass simply because we pity them, we care for them, blah blah blah. Unless of course you work for Herpa yourself, then I completely understand your sentiments.

Don't get me wrong, this latest release is very much welcome, although I'm simply pointing out that it COULD have been better. Undoubtedly, people are going to eventually want the OW scheme too and what then? If that model comes out, will it have the same reg as this one? This is my basic sentiment and I am simply expressing it as this is a FORUM. Or it should be.

I do not work for Herpa (but I wouldn't mind doing so and having some influence on their releases...). And I am also not always satisfied with their output. They made some models with major issues, I just didn't see this new release as part of that. The plane carries the colours it at least some time flew in. So it is all right for me.

You have a point when you ask what they will do, when they will release a "One World" colours model. But so far we don't know if they'll release that, or if it will be a Qantas B747-400 if they ever do. And even if they release the same plane in the future as a "One World" it is still not wrong. Is it really that important which registration is on the model, as long as it is a correct registration? I'm just wondering...

Regarding the economy and all that - yeah, it is a free world etc.
But - what if they would really leave the market, because they think they can't satisfy their customers anymore... Would 1/500 scale survive without Herpa? I really don't know... All I'm asking is for a little slack, where there's nothing REALLY wrong.

Hikouki, you seem to spend a LOT of time with your hobby (which is perfectly fine by me!) and you have so many discoveries and wonder about so many things, which is also fine by me, but I think sometimes you should slow down a bit, because sometimes you just sound angry and unhappy to me and that's definitely not why you started to get involved in this nice hobby. That's all I wanted to point out, so no need to get angry and unhappy with me now...

EuregioAndreas · 03-30-2009, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by arhang1219

For now they won't change the livery and remains in the standard livery. What if, they will have a OW livery later on with the same reg. What do you guys will think? Some say good, some say bad.... why?

Herpa does not rule out the possibility to publish the One-world variant of this model in a further edition (when this edition is sold out i think).

FedEx777 · 03-30-2009, 01:05 PM

This will look very good with my QF A380 VH-OQA and QF 743 VH-EBU along with the rest if my OW fleet.

hikouki · 03-30-2009, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by B727

... Is it really that important which registration is on the model, as long as it is a correct registration? I'm just wondering...

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OF COURSE IT DOES MATTER! They're miniatures - something based on real life. Some say that it is small and unnoticeable, so why put reg's on them in the first place?

If all that matters is to have a generic copy of this and that livery, then it should not matter whether it is OG or NG, or whether it is Herpa or Schabak. Perfection can never be attained but one can always do better the next time. A step backwards is a serious blunder.

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Originally Posted by B727

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Regarding the economy and all that - yeah, it is a free world etc.
But - what if they would really leave the market, because they think they can't satisfy their customers anymore... Would 1/500 scale survive without Herpa? I really don't know... All I'm asking is for a little slack, where there's nothing REALLY wrong.

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If it's a lucrative enough market, someone will fill the void.

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Originally Posted by B727

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Hikouki, you seem to spend a LOT of time with your hobby (which is perfectly fine by me!) and you have so many discoveries and wonder about so many things, which is also fine by me, but I think sometimes you should slow down a bit, because sometimes you just sound angry and unhappy to me and that's definitely not why you started to get involved in this nice hobby. That's all I wanted to point out, so no need to get angry and unhappy with me now...

If you look at my posting history, I've been active for the past two or so years, but have been virtually silent the previous years. I have approximately a year left before my clock stops ticking. I'm merely maxing out my time. All good things come to an end.

Daniel333 · 03-31-2009, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by arhang1219

For now they won't change the livery and remains in the standard livery. What if, they will have a OW livery later on with the same reg. What do you guys will think? Some say good, some say bad.... why?

For example:

I have noticed that some people are really upset and insist not to get both about the JL 772. It was produced under the standard and mushi king livery with the same reg. of JA8984.

And one of them it was me

Note that the mushi king is not registred as JA8984

But the ecojet and the normal livery with same registration: JA8984.... :S Is another mess. I would get the ecojet if I had money enogh to buy it (because it is a nice model) but is an expensive one and there are other releases with same price and even better that ecojet (details). I am happy with my normal livery in that registration.

flyingdoc · 03-31-2009, 05:03 AM

The database entry needs to be altered to reflect that this aircraft is a B747-48E.

I imagine that Herpa chose to produce this plane as it was the first jumbo in the QF fleet (and for a while the only one) sporting the new scheme. It is not the first time Herpa have been caught out by Qantas changing the plane livery between commissioning the model and final production. The A380 was a prime example of this. I thought it unusual that one of the "3 Ugly Sisters" was chosen to be the first 747 repainted into the new colours. Not complaining though - "Phillip Island" is in Victoria and I am parochial!

Last comment - Wow!! 1:500 QF jumbos have been 500609 for sooooo long at Herpa - they finally get a new product code!

Faucett Peru · 03-31-2009, 05:15 AM

The db entry is already updated, but this update is not automatically visible in this post!

flyingdoc · 03-31-2009, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Faucett Peru

The db entry is already updated, but this update is not automatically visible in this post!

Wow! You are good Carlos, my friend!

I have a couple of new pics coming your way later this week for addition to the db too...

Thanks for all the hard work you do.

atephen320 · 03-31-2009, 07:10 AM

As regarding the Herpa 1:500 scale Boeing 747-400 model I agree that it may contain some oversize seams but I really like the model issued in the Qantas normal colour scheme then in the One World revised Qantas colour scheme. I really think that these famous legacy carriers like Qantas and British Airways should keep to their original corporate colour schemes.

As regards the comment posted by German Cargo I fully endorse and agree with your point of view because if we always criticize Herpa Wings we would end up without Herpa Wings and as many of you can appreciate there are some selective models in 1:500 scale like for example the ATR-42/72 or the Fokker-50 which are model types exclusive to Herpa Wings.

Some have also stated that the colour scheme on this specific Qantas Boeing 747-400 has now been changed to the One World colour scheme and that the model is not a real time model but again and again all 1:500 scale manufactures issue a lot of Retro Birds that do not fly anymore.

I agree that Herpa Wings may have a lot of inconsistencies in their models but they are also a very important link in the 1:500 scale diecast airliner business.

Silverbird · 03-31-2009, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by atephen320

... I really think that these famous legacy carriers like Qantas and British Airways should keep to their corporate original colour schemes.

I don't think that Qantas or BA or any other of the One World members will change the whole fleet to the OW c/s. It's just one or two a/c in their fleets to show they're members of OW, just like the Star Alliance members have done for years.

EI-LAX · 03-31-2009, 04:47 PM

the oneworld scheme will probably be just a once off scheme to promote the alliance, they will revert back to standard colours!

atephen320 · 04-01-2009, 06:00 AM

I am sorry if I did not explain my concept very well I know that both British Airways and Qantas are not going to paint all their fleets in the One World Colour scheme. This colour scheme idea is as that used by Star Alliance members starting from Lufthansa that have painted only one or two of their aircraft in the Star Alliance scheme. My concept is that these airlines which are considered as the worlds elite in the airline business should keep to their original colour schemes. Not that I do not like the One World scheme but because in my opinion these airlines with these alliance liveries lose some of their powerful and mighty look .

abigaruda · 01-20-2011, 10:23 PM

The red color is too "orange" isn't?

Flight fan · 01-21-2011, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by abigaruda

The red color is too "orange" isn't?

This thread died in -09, there's no need to dig it up again.