Herpa NEWS Toy Fair 2009 - Page 4

hikouki · 02-07-2009, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by skwai56

form Modelutions

OMG!! How UGLY the metal landing gear is!

Give me back New Generation III!!!

HOLY CR@P!!!

What an abomination!!!

If they release models in this mould, then it's goodbye Herpa! And I mean they will lose a lot of customers!

I don't even know where to start - the gears are chunky; the pylons and engines look primitive; the belly bulge is all but gone; the wing seems to bend upwards towards the wingtip; and it seems to suffer from a fat rear section.

Didn't they mention that they will try and attach the wings this way whenever possible? Beginning with the A320...I hate to think this is the shape of things to come...

Faucett Peru · 02-07-2009, 09:42 AM

Certainly this model needs refinement, but just for comparison:

Morphed picture sample- morphed with real plane in similar angle (not quite matching as you can see I had to place the engines a bit higher to meet the air berlin letters at the fuselage, but probably gives you a better imagination):

Faucett Peru · 02-07-2009, 10:52 AM

More sample pictures from MLS. Modelutions Dormagen.

Daniel333 · 02-07-2009, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Faucett Peru

Indeed, the landing gear looks clumsy, but this is only a sample and lets hope for a refinement. (reminds me a bit on the IF500 Viscounts)

On the other side I am very pleased to see the plastic finally being replaced by metal.
The engines and the tail look metal made too!

Let´s wait and see the final results!

yeah well and it seems that it has rolling tires.....

oprandi tomas · 02-07-2009, 04:48 PM

i hope they are jocking with that a320 air berlin

Daniel333 · 02-07-2009, 05:10 PM

The mould of the PAL 773 is beatifull!!! A shame that there is a huge lack of details.... But... Im I soptting those lines for the exit door on the wings?

Faucett Peru · 02-08-2009, 01:19 AM

Peter Vosen is reporting about a new ATR-42-600 & ATR-72-600 in scale 1:500 from Hogan/Socatec!

Habu · 02-08-2009, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by painter

The only 1:200 I'm interested in is the SR-71A. I only collect 1:500 but have loved this bird since the '70's when I saw one at Mildenhall or Lakeheath. Walked around it for about 2 hours, engines the size of a bus and I can still remember the smell of the fuel dripping from it.

I have been a fan of the SR71 since some years, although i haven't seen one in real.

Now that there will be one in 1/200, i hope 1/500 will follow, but i have been waiting for the PBY in 1/500 also....

Go Blackbird !

Bye, Chris.

Antesyd · 02-08-2009, 10:59 AM

An An-225 is what i've been waiting for. Let hope for a C-5, C-17 and C-141 too...

Hopefully Herpa will release some SAS models this year. A a330, a340, Dash 8 Q400, B737-500, and some dc-9/md8x'a... and a skyways fokker50, please

Please Herpa, Germany is so close to Sweden, please

//Antesyd

hikouki · 02-08-2009, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel333

The mould of the PAL 773 is beatifull!!! A shame that there is a huge lack of details.... But... Im I soptting those lines for the exit door on the wings?

They could add some emergency or escape markings...but I suppose PAL wants to keep the models "cheap." Their 744+343 set lacks the passenger window frames, etc. and retails for an unbelievable price of USD28! That's only USD14 per model if you divide the price of the set per model! The 744 and 343 sold through the regular sales collection was already USD17~18 upwards each.

Tapemeister · 02-08-2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hikouki

The 1/1000 74L looks ugly. I mean the gears and engines. I thought they did a great job with the CX Cargo (Herpa) and SQ (Hogan) sets.

The Herpa 1/1000th scale range is completely different from Hogan's. Hogan has it's own 1/1000th scale line-up....

B727 · 02-09-2009, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hikouki

D#mn! Why can't they make these in 1/500.

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Originally Posted by oprandi tomas

unfortunately silk air not available in 1:500

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Originally Posted by EI-LAX

i'm not happy about the Silkair set though, it should be in 1:500.

The SilkAir set was made on request of the airline for internal use. Herpa doesn't really have a choice, if the airline wants 1/400 scale (as they already had before). Read the respective article in Wings World 1/2009...

B727 · 02-09-2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Digital

Marklin also went Kaputt just afew days ago. Granted they have been in trouble for years, but in this economic storm itll be hard for anyone operating a business without a perfect business model to survice.

The precision model/toy industry has to be seen as a luxury good. Its no suprise to me that that industry, herpa inclusive is in big trouble.

The models herpa has chosen to produce using borrowed molds actualy make a bit of sense. Molds like the 747Dreamlifter, VC-10, SuperGuppy are all molds that are obviously not worth time time and money that it would take to break even. This gives the owners of those molds, whoever they are a chance to earn a commission instead of sitting idle, and Herpa gets the chance to produce and distribute these unique models under the name of Herpa. Aside from a christmas model, we may never see any of these used ever again by herpa.

It kind of makes sence with these rather unique planes, but I think the tactic is reprehensible when it comes to more common airlines such as the L-1011, 737, or what else have you. It completely homogenizes the industry and makes brands irrelevant, which harms the industry as a whole. Whats the point if everyone is borrowing from the same pool of molds?

Right now im willing to turn a blind eye on this practice, since the economy is in the dumps and for manufacturers to survive will take cooperation like never before.

This is a mixed blessing for us collectors, it could mean fewer repeats, higher quality, nicer and newer molds. But we will have to cope with homogeneity, and of course higher prices.

Very well said! I agree 100% with your views regarding this issue!

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Originally Posted by hikouki

However, let me say that in the first place, why make a mould with very few possibilities? They just shot themeselves on the foot. Whoever thought of making the Dreamlifter and SupperGuppy was very very ambitious.

There are dozens of plane models with gazillions of possibilities screaming to be made other than these two.

Now they have dead-end moulds that they have to share with each other in order to survive.

Please remember that these moulds were made for Netmodels/Sky500 who seem to be operating without licences (=lower costs). Regarding the DreamLifter they have already managed to release 4 or 5 versions and I'm pretty sure we'll see more of the Super Guppy, too (Aeromartime, NASA, Airbus different livery). The market always seems to be more responsive to these "special" and very large aircraft than to regular airliners. Just look at the demand for the B747SCA with the Space Shuttle or the AN-225...

Conventi · 02-09-2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Faucett Peru

Peter Vosen is reporting about a new ATR-42-600 & ATR-72-600 in scale 1:500 from Hogan/Socatec!

Interesting, is this a new mould ? I´m not sure if the new ATR versions are externally that different compared to the older ones.

skwai56 · 02-10-2009, 05:11 AM

Nürnberger Spielwarenmesse 2009

flughafendiorama.de

Seems we will get a new Qantas 747 and American 757 this year!

02-07-2009, 09:42 AM	#47
Faucett Peru Wings900 Team Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mainz / Germany Age: 46 Posts: 4,521	Re: Herpa NEWS Toy Fair 2009 Certainly this model needs refinement, but just for comparison: Morphed picture sample- morphed with real plane in similar angle (not quite matching as you can see I had to place the engines a bit higher to meet the air berlin letters at the fuselage, but probably gives you a better imagination): Attached Thumbnails __________________ _________________________________________________ More Latin American Airlines.... PLEASE!

02-07-2009, 10:52 AM	#48
Faucett Peru Wings900 Team Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mainz / Germany Age: 46 Posts: 4,521	Re: Herpa NEWS Toy Fair 2009 More sample pictures from MLS. Modelutions Dormagen. __________________ _________________________________________________ More Latin American Airlines.... PLEASE!

02-07-2009, 04:48 PM	#50
oprandi tomas RJ First Officer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: budapest Age: 36 Posts: 365	Re: Herpa NEWS Toy Fair 2009 i hope they are jocking with that a320 air berlin __________________ fly swiss the best airline..

02-07-2009, 05:10 PM	#51
Daniel333 RJ Captain Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 597	Re: Herpa NEWS Toy Fair 2009 The mould of the PAL 773 is beatifull!!! A shame that there is a huge lack of details.... But... Im I soptting those lines for the exit door on the wings?

02-08-2009, 01:19 AM	#52
Faucett Peru Wings900 Team Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mainz / Germany Age: 46 Posts: 4,521	Re: Herpa NEWS Toy Fair 2009 Peter Vosen is reporting about a new ATR-42-600 & ATR-72-600 in scale 1:500 from Hogan/Socatec! __________________ _________________________________________________ More Latin American Airlines.... PLEASE!

02-08-2009, 10:59 AM	#54
Antesyd RJ Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Halmstad, Sweden Age: 34 Posts: 508	Re: Herpa NEWS Toy Fair 2009 An An-225 is what i've been waiting for. Let hope for a C-5, C-17 and C-141 too... Hopefully Herpa will release some SAS models this year. A a330, a340, Dash 8 Q400, B737-500, and some dc-9/md8x'a... and a skyways fokker50, please Please Herpa, Germany is so close to Sweden, please //Antesyd

02-10-2009, 05:11 AM	#60
skwai56 RJ Second Officer Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Hongkong Posts: 122	Re: Herpa NEWS Toy Fair 2009 Nürnberger Spielwarenmesse 2009 flughafendiorama.de Seems we will get a new Qantas 747 and American 757 this year! __________________ Herpa Collector! My Collection~

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