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Old 06-04-2008, 10:50 PM   #1
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Cool Latin American Airlines also exist

With all the respect for Europen and Asian airlines, I want to express my disappointment to Herpa 500, Inflight500,JetEx 500, Star Jets, etc., which are too focussed on Asian, European and USA airlines to the extent that they are repeatting the same models. However, the many Latin American airlines in current colors and OC's are parctically neglected.

What about Aeromexico: DC-10, DC-8, DC-9, (all in different liveries), Mexicana DC-10 (gold and other colors), 727-200 (gold), 767-300, 757. Taesa, Aviacsa, Interjet, Viva Aerobus, Volaris, Aero Peru, Avianca (NC and OC), Aero Republica, Copa, Taca, etc.

Yes, we have some of them: aeromexico DC-9 oc, Aerolineas Argentinas, several Lan Chile, etc. But, again, just few of them in comparison to the airlines from Asia, Europe and USA.
I do have however, some sugestions for non-Latin American Airlines. What about Western DC-10 and 727 (with the big "W"), DC-10 AA, UTA DC-10 (except 747) and Alitalia A300?

Please STOP repating models and bring something new in 500 scale.
I hope this message will bring some positive results regarding this issue.

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Old 06-05-2008, 12:42 AM   #2
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With all the respect for Europen and Asian airlines, I want to express my disappointment to Herpa 500, Inflight500,JetEx 500, Star Jets, etc., which are too focussed on Asian, European and USA airlines to the extent that they are repeatting the same models. However, the many Latin American airlines in current colors and OC's are parctically neglected.

What about Aeromexico: DC-10, DC-8, DC-9, (all in different liveries), Mexicana DC-10 (gold and other colors), 727-200 (gold), 767-300, 757. Taesa, Aviacsa, Interjet, Viva Aerobus, Volaris, Aero Peru, Avianca (NC and OC), Aero Republica, Copa, Taca, etc.

Yes, we have some of them: aeromexico DC-9 oc, Aerolineas Argentinas, several Lan Chile, etc. But, again, just few of them in comparison to the airlines from Asia, Europe and USA.
I do have however, some sugestions for non-Latin American Airlines. What about Western DC-10 and 727 (with the big "W"), DC-10 AA, UTA DC-10 (except 747) and Alitalia A300?

Please STOP repating models and bring something new in 500 scale.
I hope this message will bring some positive results regarding this issue.

Lalo787

I do agree with you! This is such a shame. I have been waiting for an aeromexico model in new generation! We got the Mexicana A318 but what about aeromexico? we dont have anything new! and yes the other lowcosts like volaris or interjet, etc.
There are some people like us, who wants some more latinamerican airlines!
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Old 06-05-2008, 02:04 AM   #3
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Re: Latin American Airlines also exist

Hi there and welcome to the forum!

Well, you're absolutely right, BUT that's a problem we have to face since years
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Old 06-05-2008, 02:06 AM   #4
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In fact the hole is even bigger - Europe, USA, Japan and Arabic countries are no Problem - but the rest? There are _3_ planes from the worlds secound biggest counties flag carrier (and one is Herpa OG) and the ones from PR China you can also count by hand
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being a licensed manufacturer, i think the official permissions are herpa's biggest problem. not all of these airlines give herpa permission to make models of their aircrafts...at least that's what herpa always says.

i think one reason why we have not seen many latin american carriers is because many of them have been changing their corporate identities...aeromexico, avianca, varig and LAN have changed their schemes the past few years. typically, airlines only want its current colors made into models for promotional/ publicity purposes.

we can only hope these carriers will now give herpa permission to make more of their aircrafts.
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Old 06-05-2008, 04:30 AM   #6
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... exactly my opinion! Welcome to wings900
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Old 06-05-2008, 04:41 AM   #7
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I absolutely agree! 1/500 manufacturers must make more Latin American Airlines. Now I have two airports: a German one and a American one with only three Latin American airliners (Mexicana, Varig, TAM)
Please 1/500 manufacturers: make some more...
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Old 06-05-2008, 10:59 AM   #8
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being a licensed manufacturer, i think the official permissions are herpa's biggest problem. not all of these airlines give herpa permission to make models of their aircrafts...at least that's what herpa always says.

i think one reason why we have not seen many latin american carriers is because many of them have been changing their corporate identities...aeromexico, avianca, varig and LAN have changed their schemes the past few years. typically, airlines only want its current colors made into models for promotional/ publicity purposes.

we can only hope these carriers will now give herpa permission to make more of their aircrafts.

Hmm.... but I dont think its the same with Delta.... the changed really, so many times their scheme, and herpa continues making their models. Aeromexico has changed 3 times the last years, and now I think they got a scheme to stay. (even if its not that cool at all, and it seems like the same persons are making different schemes around for different airlines and looks almost equal. See aeromexico, lan and lanchile) And Mexicana, well, all their schemes has been awesome in my opinion.
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Hmm.... but I dont think its the same with Delta.... the changed really, so many times their scheme, and herpa continues making their models. Aeromexico has changed 3 times the last years, and now I think they got a scheme to stay. (even if its not that cool at all, and it seems like the same persons are making different schemes around for different airlines and looks almost equal. See aeromexico, lan and lanchile) And Mexicana, well, all their schemes has been awesome in my opinion.
You are exactly correct! "Frequent livery changes" and "licensing issues" are invalid excuses. We see plenty of Latin models in the 1/400 scale. So, unless we can confirm that an airline is actually prohibiting use of their liveries by the model manufacturers, our members shouldn't go around guessing about why! I totally agree that the Latin carriers are under-represented in 1/500, and the reason is the stubborn and limited attitude especially from Herpa. There. Someone finally said it. I personally would love to see many more and would buy almost one example of each one. Especially dear would be all of the Mexicana de Aviacion airplanes with the "Azteca de Oro" colors.
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I'm still waiting for Herpa to release ANYTHING in Taca or Copa
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Welcome to W900! I totally agree with you!!! with this "explosion" of releases, new manufacturers and new molds it's more than time to better represent the LATAM aviation in 1/500! The list of aircrafts and airlines/liveries is tooooo long to write here...
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Your Right!
I would like to see some Latin American planes.
I would enjoy a Mexicana 767-300 (XA-MXE), Aero Mexico 777, AR A342 or 742, PLUNA 767....
Then Again, I'm happy with planes like the LAN 737-200, LAN A343, AeroGal 727.... I think we might even see a TAM A330 NC soon.
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I agree that they are being neglected, but it might have to do with the fact that they don't sell. Latin America is one of the smallest aviation markets in the world, only Africa is behind. North America is the largest and Asia and Europe both are very large, these are also where most of the collectors are and the world renowned airlines are. For instance how many people really know many airlines from SA. I'm sure some Americans and Canadians would only be able to identify GOL due to the mid-air a while ago. Other then that, people probably have not heard much of TACA, Avianca, Lan Chile, Varig, TAM, etc. You just don't hear much news about that area of the world for some reason. Also those airlines have a limited presense in the world. Varig is gone from US skies, TAM serves MIA and maybe JFK. TACA only a few, etc. While I wish there were more, I have the Latin Classics Varig 744 OC, Amazing model btw, I have few others, I do have TACA, Lan Chile Cargo but thats it. Latin America more specifically such as Aeromexico and Mexicana, it may be license problems, I know GJ does Aeromexico and Mexicana models. I have both companies along with Aero California, there is Volaris and such. So the models are there, it could be that there is a market for few of those aircraft, though GJ just release a Aviasca, and such. I think the reason for this is that these companies simply don't have much mention outside of major cities in the US, we hear about BA, KLM, and all that in the news and such all the time and most people know who they are even if they never flew just because of the global reach. Sure Aeromexico and Mexicana have a lot of US destinations but look at what they serve, narrow body to some of the larger cities and most of that traffic that fly on those airlines are non-american's, I just believe it all boils down to if there is a market for any of these airlines.
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Very good point chrisburns. But I agree with you partially: altough Varig is gone from the international market, in the seventies, eighties and in part the nineties it was one of the best airlines in terms of on board services and with many destinations to N. America and Europe, had a quite large fleet ranging from 742, 743, 744, DC-10, MD-11, 772 to 762, 763, A300, 721, 752, lots of 737s... TAM in the last years is growing fast and have taken Varig's place with a strong network in Europe with three different types (A332, MD-11, A345) and is about to receive it's first 77W, not to mention that it was the second largest F-100 operator (the first was American Airlines) with 3 different basic liveries and many more special schemes and it is the largest LatAm Airbus operator. VASP and TransBrasil in the nineties had a fair good presence in many european and some USA cities. Lan Chile now is rivalling TAM to be the largest South American operator. Avianca is one of the oldest airlines in the world and if I remember correctly is the first LatAm to order the Dreamliner. COPA is a very successful Central American airline and is seen in some USA airports and as far in the south as GRU. Altough most LatAm carriers are not well known to the general public, for many collectors they are MUSTS!
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Sadly the only scale you can see more latin models is 1:400. 1:500 and 1:200 scale manufactures donīt release latin models very often.


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