No NGs make a difference

V8-KMN · 05-09-2008, 02:46 AM

How much would the price of a model drop if it's missing the Nose Gears? Look at this:

HERPA WINGS A340-300 1/500 LUFTHANSA D-AIFC 1666040P on eBay, also Airlines, Aeronautica, Transportation, Collectables (end time 18-May-08 09:30:49 BST)

This would've been a great bargain, but the P&P costs are too much (10 pounds for this little thing?!). I think this guy's making a profit through the P&P costs.

Chard · 05-09-2008, 03:16 AM

Little tip NG most of the time stands for New Generation.

LOT 737-300 · 05-09-2008, 11:58 AM

Yeah, Chard is right, NG does stand for new Generation (as in the landing gears that are more closer to scale), just like those massive landing gears that rolled were often considered OGs (Old Generation).

But I don't think a model without nose gear will sell very much, if it'll sell at all. He would probebly have to sell it at like 2 GBP, as for shipping, I can't comment, even though I would guess that is a normal rate for shipping over there.

Silverbird · 05-09-2008, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by V8-KMN

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This would've been a great bargain, but the P&P costs are too much (10 pounds for this little thing?!). I think this guy's making a profit through the P&P costs.

shipping cost from european countries to overseas destinations (Brunai in your case) are certainly quite high. Even inside europe from one country to another it's often very expensive.

Bushy · 05-09-2008, 08:07 PM

I recently bought an SQ777-200 ID 2431 with a broken NLG (Nose Landing Gear) from Ebay for $6.00 US.
I emailed Herpa and asked for a replacement NLG which they sent me FOC. See this thread: http://www.wings900.com/vb/1-500-sca...nlg-herpa.html
It's now almost good as new.

Digital · 05-09-2008, 08:25 PM

Yea, if its a herpa mail it back to the company for repairs first, then sell it. The price will jump back up to normal. If you sell it broken, yea that will hurt the value, and who ever buys it will have to repair it via herpa, which is very easy to do. They end up profiting.

Its not talked about in this thread, but I will remind you that a model without its box has considerably less value. In fact it becomes practicaly worthless, as much as a broken model. Even an expensive rare model might only fetch afew quit, euros, or dollars wherever it sells. It will probably sell, but your not earning anything on it. So hold onto those boxes if your ever going to resell at some point.

Another reminder, if your going to sell a model without its box, PLEASE be honest about it. Im very pissed off at the guy who sold me an Aer Lingus F50 labeled as ''New'' on Ebay, which i payed the equivallent of a tank of gas in callifornia (22 gallons worth) for, only to have it show up broken, dusty and without its box.

Bushy · 05-09-2008, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Digital

Another reminder, if your going to sell a model without its box, PLEASE be honest about it. Im very pissed off at the guy who sold me an Aer Lingus F50 labeled as ''New'' on Ebay, which i payed the equivallent of a tank of gas in callifornia (22 gallons worth) for, only to have it show up broken, dusty and without its box.

Unfortunately there are a few Ebay sellers who are "a little shy with the truth". Fortunately, all the models I have bought from ebay have been as described.

Perhaps there should be a list of people to be wary of on ebay. Both sellers and buyers.

JJarego · 05-09-2008, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bushy

Unfortunately there are a few Ebay sellers who are "a little shy with the truth". Fortunately, all the models I have bought from ebay have been as described.

Perhaps there should be a list of people to be wary of on ebay. Both sellers and buyers.

Yes I agree, I always ask if there is an undamged box and if there are any stickers. It's like you have to specificly ask the questions so if it shows up not as described, I have a better chance getting my money back!

eBay is getting more expensive and there is more crap going on!

B727 · 05-12-2008, 11:14 AM

I have sold 100s of models on ebay and always stated if there's a box with it or if something is wrong with the model itself. ´Maybe because I collect these models myself and I also hate dissapointment I try to describe every model down to the last detail.
When I buy models I usually stay away from offers where the picture aren't clear or the description tells me nothing at all about the condition of the model or if it comes with a box or not.
And then there's the guys who know their models aren't quite right but simply keep quiet about it and hope the buyer will not complain...

Chrisvalla · 05-16-2008, 11:04 PM

Ask questions and for pics. If they don't satisfy you as to the condition of the model, don't buy it. I've been burned twice by not asking and 'assuming' the seller knew what they were talking about. Luckily neither was more than $30 but it was annoying.

05-09-2008, 02:46 AM	#1
V8-KMN RJ First Officer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brunei Darussalam Age: 18 Posts: 290	No NGs make a difference How much would the price of a model drop if it's missing the Nose Gears? Look at this: HERPA WINGS A340-300 1/500 LUFTHANSA D-AIFC 1666040P on eBay, also Airlines, Aeronautica, Transportation, Collectables (end time 18-May-08 09:30:49 BST) This would've been a great bargain, but the P&P costs are too much (10 pounds for this little thing?!). I think this guy's making a profit through the P&P costs. __________________ creation_of_mine ------------------ Royal Brunei Airlines & HMSF Brunei collector ======V8-KMN======

05-09-2008, 03:16 AM	#2
Chard Captain Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Devonport, Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,375	Re: No NGs make a difference Little tip NG most of the time stands for New Generation. __________________ I Don't Like Cricket! I Love It! GO The All Blacks!!!

05-09-2008, 11:58 AM	#3
LOT 737-300 ATP Captain Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere near MCO Age: 20 Posts: 3,023	Re: No NGs make a difference Yeah, Chard is right, NG does stand for new Generation (as in the landing gears that are more closer to scale), just like those massive landing gears that rolled were often considered OGs (Old Generation). But I don't think a model without nose gear will sell very much, if it'll sell at all. He would probebly have to sell it at like 2 GBP, as for shipping, I can't comment, even though I would guess that is a normal rate for shipping over there. __________________ My Airport: Nowa Warszawa Int'l (NWL): If anyone is interested in Fantasy Flights PM me or e-mail me. my website airport's is http://www.freewebs.com/nwlairport For those of you interested in joining in on BSA (started in 2005 and still going!) or joining the Razgriz Airline Mogul Alliance, go ahead and post your interest in our forum. http://s14.invisionfree.com/Bluesphere_forum/index.php? Hey, model plane manufactures, how about some Braniff PZL 230Fs.

05-09-2008, 08:07 PM	#5
Bushy Puddle Jumper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: S.E Asia Posts: 82	Re: No NGs make a difference I recently bought an SQ777-200 ID 2431 with a broken NLG (Nose Landing Gear) from Ebay for $6.00 US. I emailed Herpa and asked for a replacement NLG which they sent me FOC. See this thread: http://www.wings900.com/vb/1-500-sca...nlg-herpa.html It's now almost good as new. __________________ My Collection. http://www.wings900.com/modeldatabas...ion-14401.html

05-09-2008, 08:25 PM	#6
Digital RJ Captain Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Los Angeles Age: 25 Posts: 405	Re: No NGs make a difference Yea, if its a herpa mail it back to the company for repairs first, then sell it. The price will jump back up to normal. If you sell it broken, yea that will hurt the value, and who ever buys it will have to repair it via herpa, which is very easy to do. They end up profiting. Its not talked about in this thread, but I will remind you that a model without its box has considerably less value. In fact it becomes practicaly worthless, as much as a broken model. Even an expensive rare model might only fetch afew quit, euros, or dollars wherever it sells. It will probably sell, but your not earning anything on it. So hold onto those boxes if your ever going to resell at some point. Another reminder, if your going to sell a model without its box, PLEASE be honest about it. Im very pissed off at the guy who sold me an Aer Lingus F50 labeled as ''New'' on Ebay, which i payed the equivallent of a tank of gas in callifornia (22 gallons worth) for, only to have it show up broken, dusty and without its box. Last edited by Digital; 05-10-2008 at 08:14 AM.

05-12-2008, 11:14 AM	#9
B727 Senior Captain Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Guangzhou / China Posts: 1,912	Re: No NGs make a difference I have sold 100s of models on ebay and always stated if there's a box with it or if something is wrong with the model itself. ´Maybe because I collect these models myself and I also hate dissapointment I try to describe every model down to the last detail. When I buy models I usually stay away from offers where the picture aren't clear or the description tells me nothing at all about the condition of the model or if it comes with a box or not. And then there's the guys who know their models aren't quite right but simply keep quiet about it and hope the buyer will not complain...

05-16-2008, 11:04 PM	#10
Chrisvalla Senior Captain Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: San Antonio, TX, USA Posts: 1,693	Re: No NGs make a difference Ask questions and for pics. If they don't satisfy you as to the condition of the model, don't buy it. I've been burned twice by not asking and 'assuming' the seller knew what they were talking about. Luckily neither was more than $30 but it was annoying.

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