Archipelago

Speaking of which Herpa/Hogan is concerned, we have seen them release ANA models in Mohican colors, L-1011 (OG), 722 and 741SR. It has also been announced they are releasing their own version of 732 Mohican as part of a set of 2 (NHS52004).

As for ANA planes in Pokemon colors, we have seen their 744s in the market but none of the 763s (with the exception of Netmodels releases).

Will these 763s in two different ANA Pokemon liveries (1998 and 1999) be released by Herpa/Hogan? Considering they also have released those that are mentioned above in the yesterday colors of Mohican. Any thoughts?

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cyhupilot

I don't know

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hikouki

they made the last pokemon model a few years ago already, haven't they? i imagine it would be easy for them to take a go with this model if they still have license from the pokemon people...

ANA Precision Models' pattern of releases is quite erratic. as far as NG is concerned, we had a wave of 747s and 777s (all in NG) to death a few years back (some have already come out as OG). after another several years, some 737s and now 767s. they skipped all the airbus planes as well as the 727 and L1011s!

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lollomz

My question is: why not to take the Netmodels planes?

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Model Details for Netmodels 1:500 ANA All Nippon Airways B 767-381 - Wings900 ID# 5666

Model Details for Netmodels 1:500 ANA All Nippon Airways B 767-381 - Wings900 ID# 18125

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hikouki

they're nice. but nothing beats the original non-pirated (officially licensed) model.

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retro 742, retro DC10, retro AB4
742 mabuhay chicago, AB4 love bus

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Archipelago

Like it was stated above, Herpa/Hogan haven't done those 763 Pokemons, only Netmodels did.

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Archipelago

Well, the answer is simple, it is always good to have Hogan versions to group them together with the original five 744s.

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hikouki

let me say that again, (in response to "why not take the netmodels planes?..")

they (NETMODELS) are nice. but nothing beats the original non-pirated, officially licensed model (ANA Precision Models by HOGAN).

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77W, A330, A320, A319, Q400, Q300
742, M11, A342, DC10, AB4, 734, 733
retro 742, retro DC10, retro AB4
742 mabuhay chicago, AB4 love bus

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N521UP

I would love it if Hogan produced one of these.

Archipelago

Let me say that again (regarding the two links to the two different 763s Pokemon, Netmodels version that you quoted above in post#6), how would you know the original non-pirated, officially licensed model WAS better than the Netmodels version if they had NOT been done at all by Herpa/Hogan?

This is a correct statement below! :

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hikouki

only HOGAN (read NOT Netmodels) HAS the license to produce the Pokemon models (but have YET to produce the 767s, or have chosen not to, or perhaps they do not have the specific license to make the 767 pokemons).

AFAIK, the two Netmodels are mere PIRATED (read unlicensed) planes. and that is what i was referring to. in some countries, third world or not, and for some collectors, serious or not, the license makes a difference - the fact that you know you are not stealing intellectual property, or should i say you are not supporting those who do.

hence i mean to say that the various netmodels pokemons (whatever model types) that have come out are nothing compared to whatever ANA Precision Models has released (either equivalent type or not) because the former are illegitemate anyway!

perhaps i should say:
they're nice. but nothing beats an original non-pirated (officially licensed) model.

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77W, A330, A320, A319, Q400, Q300
742, M11, A342, DC10, AB4, 734, 733
retro 742, retro DC10, retro AB4
742 mabuhay chicago, AB4 love bus

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B727

I have both Netmodels B767 Pokemon models and I'm very happy with both, as they so nicely compliment my collection of ANA models from Herpa/Hogan. If Herpa/Hogan ever decides (or actually ANA Trading Co. decides) to produce these two models, I'll have a good look at them and might get them if I like them better. In the meantime I'm glad Netmodels has these models, same as the Marine Jumbo B747-400(D) and B767-300, Snoopy B747-400(D) and many other Japanese specials nobody else has ever done!

Archipelago

Licensed or unlicensed models, these models will sell. Serious or non serious collectors, some of them will buy these models. The manufactures simply look at the market, look at what things will sell and use the opportunity to make some money.

Over the years, you can see those golden models, gap fillers for the collection entering the market. Who buy them? Just about everyone who enjoys this hobby and simply can afford it.

By saying stealing intelectual property and supporting those who do so, are you saying you only buy and do not own unlicensed models at all? Yes I know they are cheaper than the licensed ones.

You can't compare something 'pirated' which has no 'licensed' counterpart. Just like those two 763s Pokemon who happened to have been done only by NM and not by Herpa/Hogan at all!

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hikouki

i know that a lot of people want and actually buy these models and that largely they 'fill gaps' like what you said.

personally, my collection is largely composed of herpa planes and some starjets. i have never bought any netmodel for various reasons including what i have stated. i never realized they were unlicensed until some time ago when they disappeared in some shops in the US as they were reported as 'illegal' and some stores dropped them. and why else would some of these companies change names quite often?

why else would the likes of herpa struggle to make only licensed models if it weren't important?

physically, there is no comparison. yes, only the NM versions exist. but what you said is legitimizing 'squatting.' i'm sure you're familiar with that social phenomenon, only this time, it is intellectual property.

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77W, A330, A320, A319, Q400, Q300
742, M11, A342, DC10, AB4, 734, 733
retro 742, retro DC10, retro AB4
742 mabuhay chicago, AB4 love bus

my airport blog: Paper Intercontinental Airport
my model collection pictures at Flickr
my albums at photobucket