Help! My New B747!

matt109 · 03-20-2009, 05:02 PM

Help!

I have just bought a British Airways B747-400 made by Gemini Jets, only to find when it arrived that one of the RR RB211-524's is bent!

What shall I do, do I try to bend it back, or leave it, or even try to send it back?

Regards

Matt

thomascook · 03-20-2009, 05:41 PM

Sorry but it has happened to every BA 747. don't try to bend it back it will just snap off then it will look worse. We cant do any think about it was up to Gemini to make it better.

MYT DC-10 · 03-20-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by thomascook

Sorry but it has happened to every BA 747. don't try to bend it back it will just snap off then it will look worse. We cant do any think about it was up to Gemini to make it better.

None of my BA 744's have bent engines, there perfect to me

LAX · 03-20-2009, 07:58 PM

I received a Virgin "Birthday Girl" B747 with just this problem (one engine bent) and I took the risk to bend it straight.

Yes... I used pliers to do it , BUT around the engine I had a thick wad of gauze to protect it and I went Ohhhhhhhhh soooooooo carefully when I did it.

Whew , no break , a straight engine , and Bob's your uncle.

Lax

rapleylikeba · 03-20-2009, 08:00 PM

Mine has the same problem. Nearly every batch has it! I've requested for a long time for GeminiJets to bring out a new, flawless one! When G-CIVW came out, I thought it was going to be an improvement of G-CIVV, with a fixed engine... BUT NO! IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME!

There is one way of fixing it though, although you should definatly ask other members of better ways, as I kind of mucked my wing up just a little tiny bit.

1. Wiggle the engine up and down a bit and try to separate it from the engine pylon.

2. Get a pair of plyers (pliers?) and stick some thick double-sided tape on the teeth, leaving the side not stuck to the teeth with the sticker (sorry, not very good with the terminology) kept on.

3. Gently squeeze the plyers (or however you spell it) onto the engine pylon and slowly bent the pylon downwards.

4. Put the engine back onto the engine pylon and check to see if you did it correctly.

Here's an image of what I did:

MAKE SURE YOU DON'T DO WHAT I DID AND CHIP THE WING

Now, as you can see, I haven't bent the engine pylon down too far (in fact - not far enough) because I was worried that the metal would fatigue and snap right off, so I tried to do the best I could (poor result to the wing, but looks OK when looking at the aircraft at normal viewing distance). I'd rather not buy G-CIVW and do this with it because I may break it and waste my money. I'm just going to sit here and wait for GeminiJets to bring out a new, flawless one.

LOOK:

Even in this image from GJ, you can see that engine number 1 is slighly bent upwards (the far left engine):

Dylan · 03-20-2009, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by thomascook

We cant do any think about it was up to Gemini to make it better.

THING...THING NOT THINK....THING...JESUS.:rolley es::rolley es:

This is about the 200th time....my GOD man, pull your head out!

matt109 · 03-20-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan

THING...THING NOT THINK....THING...JESUS.:rolley es::rolley es:

This is about the 200th time....my GOD man, pull your head out!

WTF! Whats his problem?! LOL

n777co · 03-20-2009, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by matt109

WTF! Whats his problem?! LOL

His problem is that there have already been numerous threads already about this and if you use the search function you would be able to find it... He just used bigger words.

P.S. Watch the language please.

Scottish_DC-10 · 03-20-2009, 09:00 PM

Yes, a lot do have this bent engine pylon but for god's sake don't use any tools on them! They can be moved into the correct position by applying progressive pressure using just your fingers but nice and slowly, and it won't chip your wings! Not one of my Gemini 747's have broken whilst undergoing this corrective treatment and some have had some extreme pitch up. This subject just keeps coming up over and over again............

rapleylikeba · 03-20-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottish_DC-10

Yes, a lot do have this bent engine pylon but for god's sake don't use any tools on them! They can be moved into the correct position by applying progressive pressure using just your fingers but nice and slowly, and it won't chip your wings! Not one of my Gemini 747's have broken whilst undergoing this corrective treatment and some have had some extreme pitch up. This subject just keeps coming up over and over again............

With your fingers? I'll probably be so worried of breaking my engine pylon or mucking the process up that'll I'll sweat and keep on slipping off the pylon! However, if this method works - it proves to be better! I've got to try it! Next time I get a GJ BA 747 (probably G-CIVW), I'll do what you suggest. I really do think that a model manufacturer like GeminiJets really should be making top-noch models! If I pay good money, I expect a good product!

rapleylikeba · 03-20-2009, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n777co

His problem is that there have already been numerous threads already about this and if you use the search function you would be able to find it... He just used bigger words.

P.S. Watch the language please.

No, I don't think he was talking about that. Dylan's annoyed with Jacob because he said 'we cant do any think about it...', containing spelling and grammar mistakes. He was mainly focusing on the fact that Jacob put 'think' instead of 'thing', or even worse: anything is the correct word to use and Jacob split the word up (and said 'think' of course).

n777co · 03-20-2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rapleylikeba

No, I don't think he was talking about that. Dylan's annoyed with Jacob because he said 'we cant do any think about it...', containing spelling and grammar mistakes.

hmm... my mistake then...

Mudanglee · 03-20-2009, 11:22 PM

I think the planes we buy aren't really cheap. Gemini and all the other model companies need to have quality control.

LOT 737-300 · 03-20-2009, 11:52 PM

All I gotta say is that this is a flaw that pops up on the GJ 744 mould apparently. I think the problem goes down to how they put in the engine at the factory.

Quote:

Well excuse me... your seem quite happy to let other members use "profanity". I could understand your point if I wrote it in full, but that clearly is not appropriate!

YOU SHOULD KEEP YOUR OWN OPINIONS TO YOURSELF... A/HOLE (I DIDN'T SAY IT!)

This was the constructive help I need: from Scottish_DC-10, Thank You, and all others

Not that jerk n777co!

Easy there. Basically their point is that there is a group that makes LOTS of spelling and grammar mistakes for people your age and where you live (older than 11 years old and living in a country where English is the primary language taught) should not be making. Also, it seems like this wasn't exactly aimed at you but more at jacob (at least he doesn't say "Pitchers" when he wants to say "Pictures", as well as a small error of communication on n777co's part (which does happen to us all from time to time.)

n777co · 03-21-2009, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Wahoo

And your thread was deleted.

thats really odd.... I wonder why?

03-20-2009, 05:02 PM	#1
matt109 ATP Captain Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,899	Help! My New B747! Help! I have just bought a British Airways B747-400 made by Gemini Jets, only to find when it arrived that one of the RR RB211-524's is bent! What shall I do, do I try to bend it back, or leave it, or even try to send it back? Regards Matt __________________ NEW WEBSITE @ www.intergateway.co.uk For Sale \| My Collection

03-20-2009, 05:41 PM	#2
thomascook English boy (BNA) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: birmingham northfield/longbridge Posts: 1,281	Re: Help! My New B747! Sorry but it has happened to every BA 747. don't try to bend it back it will just snap off then it will look worse. We cant do any think about it was up to Gemini to make it better. __________________ Jacob Looking for a few 1/400: Easyjet A319 Easyjet A320 GJ Ryan Air 737-800

03-20-2009, 07:58 PM	#4
LAX Captain Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Seattle ,WA, USA Age: 44 Posts: 1,359	Re: Help! My New B747! I received a Virgin "Birthday Girl" B747 with just this problem (one engine bent) and I took the risk to bend it straight. Yes... I used pliers to do it , BUT around the engine I had a thick wad of gauze to protect it and I went Ohhhhhhhhh soooooooo carefully when I did it. Whew , no break , a straight engine , and Bob's your uncle. Lax

03-20-2009, 08:00 PM	#5
rapleylikeba Slow Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Somewhere in the UK probably Age: 18 Posts: 1,028	Re: Help! My New B747! Mine has the same problem. Nearly every batch has it! I've requested for a long time for GeminiJets to bring out a new, flawless one! When G-CIVW came out, I thought it was going to be an improvement of G-CIVV, with a fixed engine... BUT NO! IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME! There is one way of fixing it though, although you should definatly ask other members of better ways, as I kind of mucked my wing up just a little tiny bit. 1. Wiggle the engine up and down a bit and try to separate it from the engine pylon. 2. Get a pair of plyers (pliers?) and stick some thick double-sided tape on the teeth, leaving the side not stuck to the teeth with the sticker (sorry, not very good with the terminology) kept on. 3. Gently squeeze the plyers (or however you spell it) onto the engine pylon and slowly bent the pylon downwards. 4. Put the engine back onto the engine pylon and check to see if you did it correctly. Here's an image of what I did: MAKE SURE YOU DON'T DO WHAT I DID AND CHIP THE WING Now, as you can see, I haven't bent the engine pylon down too far (in fact - not far enough) because I was worried that the metal would fatigue and snap right off, so I tried to do the best I could (poor result to the wing, but looks OK when looking at the aircraft at normal viewing distance). I'd rather not buy G-CIVW and do this with it because I may break it and waste my money. I'm just going to sit here and wait for GeminiJets to bring out a new, flawless one. LOOK: Even in this image from GJ, you can see that engine number 1 is slighly bent upwards (the far left engine): __________________ youtube.com/rapljwop Go Heikki Kovalainen 2012! Go Caterham F1 2012! Last edited by rapleylikeba; 03-20-2009 at 08:08 PM.

03-20-2009, 09:00 PM	#9
Scottish_DC-10 Second Officer Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ramstein, Germany Posts: 718	Re: Help! My New B747! Yes, a lot do have this bent engine pylon but for god's sake don't use any *tools* on them! They can be moved into the correct position by applying progressive pressure using just your *fingers* but nice and slowly, and it won't chip your wings! Not one of my Gemini 747's have broken whilst undergoing this corrective treatment and some have had some extreme pitch up. This subject just keeps coming up over and over again............ __________________ "The (Y)UK is beginning to look Very "Unnatractive" to return to, "Canada" is beginning to look the way Forward. Decisions, Decisions...."

03-20-2009, 11:22 PM	#13
Mudanglee Second Officer Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Toronto Age: 43 Posts: 691	Re: Help! My New B747! I think the planes we buy aren't really cheap. Gemini and all the other model companies need to have quality control.

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